Ladies, is it not manly for a guy to cook, or would you prefer a man who can cook?
I think all men should be taught to cook
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I am a big hair bound gorilla of a man who grunts a lot and is one of the guys with a garage full of tools and hells bells I have spent the last three weekends with a jackhammer in my hands all day. The lad that grew up on a multi thousand acre cattle ranch and really has done the real deal cowboy stuff. Gooseneck trailers, feed stores, stretching barbed wire and setting t-posts. The proverbial mans man and all that blather... but put me in a kitchen and I am a whiz. I love to cook and have enjoyed it since before conscious memory. I expect that I went in for plural marriage just to have more woman wash dishes while I cook.
I know that the question was to the ladies but I am weighing in on the side of cooking being 100% manly.
Morality is your agreement with yourself to abide by your own rules - RAH
and who cooks for the marlboro man?
in the range, sleeping under the stars...and no, the women won't sleep on the ground in a bedroll with a piece of canvas over them.
when he gets home, spends time with the wife...watches tv for a moment , he sees what appear to be'men' 'identifying with women' 'sympathizing with their emotions' 'embracing the feminine' and wonders...what the hell is a 'metrosexual'...is it a disease? , or..some kind of alien? Turns if off and gets back in his truck and heads back out to the range....
he chuckles a bit and shakes his head...'how long can this go on'? He lights up a cigarette and looks at the horizon....
I heard reports he died alone, somewhere between L Word Valley and Brokenback mountain? Maybe just a rumor...
Proverbs 21:19 "It is better to live in a desert land than with a quarrelsome and easily-provoked woman"
Psalm 144:1 Blessed be Yahweh my strength, which teacheth my hands to war, and my fingers to fight
that I had to turn to google to figure out what that joke meant. Ugh, no wonder the girls make fun of me.
interesting how the iconic cowboy is denigrated by the modern male. Perhaps one pseudo-alpha trying to tell the other he's an imposter?
I've had the pleasure of meeting and working with several 'marlboro men' in my life, these have a character that speaks for itself. No self flattery, no need to brag or tell stories, they have a grip like steel and would just as soon twist your head off as take any shit about where you've been or who you think you are.
when things change, it will be those men that survive well.
I never got the cigarette thing. Not that I have not been a tobacco user in the past but in totally different directions. Now I rarely use tobacco but when I do I smoke a beat up old pipe. With cigarettes all I can taste are the chemicals and paper. It is not unlike smoking a big chief tablet if anyone remembers those.
Re the men not being men thing, I tend to look at the unfortunate number of unwed mothers trying to raise children on their own. I could go on at length about that as a tragedy in so many directions but one that does take a long term cultural toll is that young woman are not generally equipped to raise sons into men. Not a criticism of those woman just a simple and depressing fact. An ugly and self perpetuating circle.... you know that makes me muse allowed as it were about the conundrum inherent in so many of the feminist types that object to polygamy beating their drum about how men abandon woman to raise children on their own but also condemn the plural marriage folks for living their life the way that they do because they dislike the ratio of girl bits to boy bits even though the men in question are rather fanatical about commitment and raising their families. Hmmmmmmm
My husband is a metrosexual. Well....at least I think he is, from what I understand it to be. It's a man who is tends to his grooming very well. My husband is prior military and we've been together for a very long while, so when he started dressing less than gentlemanly like, I said "Oh, no, no, no." I'm all for supporting the infantry, but there is a fine line between smelling of military training and letting yourself go! lol Besides, I like eye candy, and I personally prefer a man who is clean shaven, smelling, and being. I have yet to understand how people do not understand the concept of personal hygiene. Rugged and manly is one thing, stinky and far gone, whole other thing! :-/ :-D
Metrosexual as I see it an obsessive and vain focus on ones appearance. One can be quite meticulous about their grooming without it being the all encompassing focus of ones life. Vanity rather than pride or simple good habits. Plus to be honest most of the metrosexual types are entirely too full of themselves and generally unjustifiably so to be considered much but a douchebag.
Is effeminate. I have always been clean shaven and my looks and personality are very similar to James West (Robert Conrad) in the 1960s Wild Wild West TV series. Firearms and martial arts instructor. I try to smell nice, too. Lol. No one would call me a metro
Edit.. a perfect example of a metro was in the first SHREK movie.. Prince Charming
Prince Charming can certainly be considered a metrosexual, but he's also a rotten apple. Noblequest had the correct wordage though! I prefer his over mine. :=D
I like the Robert Conrad look. I think it is so classic. I don't understand today's youth and men with long hair and skinny jeans. Please tell me that you don't wear skinny jeans! :-/
P.S. Thank you for smelling nice. I've had many martial arts instructors and partners that smell absolutely horrible. I know we sweat and eventually start to smell, but that should be AFTER a long training session not prior! :-)
Not sure what you mean by that but I kinda hate jeans, way too constrictive. For casual wear I prefer sweats, Carhartts, 511s, cargo shorts and BDUS. I use deodorant, so I don't think I smell "bad" even after a workout
There are a LOT of rotten apples out there.. maybe it's all the fairy godmother's fault C];0)
So here is what the new fad is which is called the skinny jean. Yes, boys, and men alike wear them, and yes, I think they are the worst looking thing ever.
Jeans in general are ok, if one finds the correct cut. You and my husband would get along just wonderfully. He likes to wear what you wear and some other things like slacks, bootcut jeans, and pants he likes to call "comfys", which is like sleepwear mixed with sweatpants.
Fairy godmother! hehehehe I had a good chuckle! :-D It too can be the whole sense of entitlement with today's youth, but that's a whole new can of worms. :-/
P.S. Thank you for wearing deodorant! You'll be surprised how many people don't know what it is much less use it!
Maybe new seven years ago...... lol.
Anyway, it is a young persons thing, it will definitely look stupid on any man over 30. Leave the kids alone sheesh.
Perhaps if I were not a walking anachronism or perhaps if I was not built like proof of our connection to gorillas I would get the skinny jeans thing but uhm... not to be gross but how could a man put on something so tight in er areas and function normally?
I think it is AWESOME that a man can cook! It is one of life's most basic necessities. Whenever someone says that men who know how to cook are less than "manly" I remind them that some of the greatest chefs in the world are men.....then I hear pins drop. :-D
I personally think that cooking is one of the many things that both the man and the woman should know how and be willing to do. I think the mentality that the woman should do the cooking is the result of the male ego. Yes, I think that the division of labor is a wise avenue to take in the home and certainly there is wisdom in letting the most experienced/capable person do most of the cooking, but....
Cooking is good for the man to know in times of need. Not just his need, but hers too. What a blessing we can be to the women who cook for us day after day, week after week, etc... When we become a blessing to our families by cooking a good meal and giving our wives a much deserved break, then we are proving our manliness. Anything short of that may prove we are nothing more than a male chauvinist pig. The key point here is what are we as men willing to do?
This is expecially important for families where the wife works out of the home.
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Hi , I realize this is a Very old Post. But I truly Love the Original posters , Post ! :-)
And Think its a Great Question ! :-)
If you were Speaking about What Lady's Idea's about it were/Are
Then I would say that 100% A Man Absolutely should Cook and not just Cook but knowingly and Willingly Be Doing 1/2 Of it Depending on everyones Schedules and Actually Create Something Maybe A Good amount of it Should be Not just to thro Tatter Totts in the Oven lol and Actually Prepare a Good Delicious Healthy Meal Without Any Out side instructions !
THEN YES !
LOL , BUT If your asking about The Reality of it Haha , Then Not Really .this has Never been any sort of thing I have ever Expected at all ! Hehe
I however do ( For the Men in my life meaning my Husband and 3 Sons and my Son in law )
I do make it a Kind of Requirement like all my Son's are Fully able and on occasion willing lol to make anything they would like by knowing at least some basic Recipes without having to look them up and Knowing the way around a little at least around the Kitchen so they are more then capable of making or inventing ( Depending on if they only have what's already in the Kitchen or being able to purchase what they need for a Recipe)
Either way they can put together a Few Good Healthy Meals.and also then knowing easily how to follow a Recipe as well. So that if they are on there own but yet not married they can Eat lol And Also so yes they can Chip in to if there wife gets sick or there wife has a Super hard day and they have had a Good one they can even surprise her by doing that and also for there kids esp. If I am not near by ! :-)
As for my Husband. This wasn't even something I thought about ( Him Cooking lol )
Thankfully He can ! So after to many Meals That Had to be ordered in lol Our Kids were to young to do anything in the Kitchen without Serious Supervision. And everyone got Sick of eatting out lol and it was VERY Expensive. Although my Husband ABSOLUTELY Hates to Cook or Bake or make pretty much anything lol.. I am So Happy he was willing to learn and still does it when Needed !
Including grocery shopping and cleaning up after or the next morning lol.He Is Fully capable . But he is NOT Good at making anything look appetizing Ha !
He is 100% Able to when Needed.
Other then that He does However every few months enjoy making a Big Sunday Breakfast that tastes And Looks Really Good !
I am not sure if he didn't learn before me because in the Time he was Raised or not ??
He just turned 54 . I am More then a Decade younger.
I will ask him when he gets home from work I really don't know !
That says alot ( That Idk ) Beings we have been married for Many Decades !
So I have prepared my Son's to be Able to cook and also find things they may like to make at least more then other recipes. I personally expect that there future wife / Wives be doing all of it except when Needed. Or if there Wife / Wives do Not know how then while they learn then my Son's are Expected to help them learn and or Encourage then while they do. And in that case If I am not living near by they BETTER Be Doing it with a Smile on there face and Song in there heart !
I never Expected my Husband to know how. Or that he would have ever needed to learn. It would have been nice if he already did know some things to make but Thankfully he has learned but he now ONLY Does it if 100% Necessary. My Son's that are still at home and I are EXTREMELY Greatful he can. My Husband 100% Hates it.
Anyway Although this is an Old Post I really Think this is A Delightful one ! :-)
Flutter. Not a New post. Edited by Flutterbug
The female version of the man cave is the kitchen. How about those sammiches, the pitcher of beer and frosted mugs? Now if it's a BBQ I can wear my BBQ pistol and cook it up with the best (wonder if any females here even know what a BBQ pistol is) I prefer Mr Stubbs BBQ sauce BTW
The Kitchen is for women and the bbq is for the man. Just like the laundry room is for the woman and the garage/shop is for the man. Just like cleaning the house is for a woman and taking care of everything outside is for the man. Just like changing a diaper is for a woman and changing a tire is for a man. Just like sewing is for a woman and welding is for a man. Just like flowers are for a woman and a steak sandwich is for a man. (medium rare please :)
Why not just relax? This isn't about getting angry, its about conversing, making fun of our differences, and letting go of 'being right'. We all have our opinions and points of views...and none of us are going to convince the other that they are right/wrong...LOL!
Its ok to disagree! it doesn't have to be a fight.
Ok, LOL, Flutterbug, as you have likely noted, Pluto and I were on this thread from the beginning. That is what threads are about, anyone can post anytime, they are public, not private. Please read on.
Of course, I have changed diapers, cooked, cleaned the house, held crying babies in the middle of the night...sure, any decent man fills in when necessary. It is my practice in my personal life to make the money for the family while my wife can give the care needed for the children on a constant basis. She can take a nap during the day if necessary, I can't ...I'm outside in the field working. So..who takes care of the baby if it wakes up? She does, of course. It make sense. When I get home , beat and tired, who makes the food? She does. It makes sense. When I get up in the morning, I have clean clothes to wear...because she washed them...and loved doing it.
Some women today, (and I'm not saying that you do this), stay at home all day and then demand that the husband helps to cook dinner when he gets home from work. Huh? what?
Most women today have to work. Times have changed, and in most homes, both parents work. In that situation, its a dual effort that is shared in everything. I can't imagine having to live like that myself, so my wife and I made a plan from the beginning that she would raise the kids (which she loves to do) and i would bring in the money , which I love to do. Traditional family practices out of the 1950's works.
All my comments about 'the woman's role' is what I consider to be in an 'optimal situation'.
I do strongly disagree with the current mainstream push that makes men women and women, men. This is destroying the United States and the world by destroying the children and destroying the unity and sanctity of marriage as God created it.
Well the Great Thing about Our Home is We Do not Drink at all. And Actually People who do We Really Have Never had any Problems As We Do NOT Have any Friends that Do ! :-)
So Pluto8 No need to Worry if Anyone knows your Corny Joke Is the Fact is The Post has 0 To-do With Drinking The Post it was Made for Ladies Only ! ( Unless there's something you would like to Share JK )
And Rock why do you feel the need to make Ridiculous Posts Directly At me ? FINSH Reading my Post past the Work " Should"
So for Future Notice ONLY TO Pluto8 & Rock I Have Nothing More to Ever say to either of you !! EVER ! I Thought this would be a Fun Original post For Ladies Only ! NOT TO BE BULLIED YES VERY AWFUL ADULTS BULLY PEOPLE AS YOU HAVE DONE TO ME AND YOU BOTH KNOW EXACTLY WHAT I AM SPEAKING ABOUT ! LEAVE ME PERSONALLY ALONE PERIOD !! If this continues it is Cyberbullying ! PERIOD it is illegal !
My goodness I make a Fun Post to the Other Ladies on this site and Follow the Original poster Questions and This is a yrs old one so why in the World would either of you continue to Bully me ?? That was Rhetorical ! DO NOT RESPOND ROCK OR PLUTO8.
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In my opinion, a man who can cook is really desirable. Because he has chosen to learn a *useful and basic skill*.
While we generally stick to traditional roles in our home, we absolutely learn as many skills as we can. Just in case! Being in a plural family can be hectic since you're dealing with several sets of schedules and goals for the day. So you fill in where there's a need.
Hi , I personally had never thought about it until I read the Original post. At least not really thinking about it consciously lol
I suppose that's personally why I taught not just my Daughter but my Son's as well.
How to do whatever they may need or want in this life and in the event it maybe something they would like to pursue later they already have a Good solid base to start from.
Never know what the future holds for Them I have always loved that my Son's have all the Abilities to have a Good life and not have to depend on there wife for good food what God forbid if Something happened to her ?
Health wise and He needed this ability ? I believe it is so Great that he ( My Son's)
Are willing and able and even enjoy to do the Cooking if that's what him and his Spouce or Spouses have figured out the best ! :-)
Or even on there own.
Great insight Lili !
I know how to cook in fact i made meatloaf corn and potatoes for my kids my ex wife and her boyfriend for dinner tonight
we have 10 recipe books.
I open the book. I cook. we eat. I've done it many times.
of course anyone can cook. Is it going to be a 5 star meal? lol. no. but it tastes good. If the recipe is good. the food is good. I cook. Alot of men cook.
it isn't rocket science.
Thats Great ! Esp. I personally think thats terrific that not only did you make a Very Healthy meal but you were Actually Making a it for your Kids and x but also her now Boy friend ! To me that its self is a true Manley Amazing Kind thing you thought to even do !
Seriously Cool !
The problem in America today (plus most of western world) is men are so concerned with being macho they are afraid to do anything in or around the house. I have no problem with cooking or doing laundry. I sweep and mop. I don't worry about if people think I am man enough or macho enough. I am very secure in who and what I am.I am secure enough in my manhood I don't have to prove anything. I live life secure with the fact that God has validated me and that's good enough for me.
"I like your Christ, I do not like your Christians. Your Christians are so unlike your Christ."
Hey, anybody can cook, but I didn't say we should devalue a skilled cook either! :P It actually IS a science, if you engage yourself in the concepts behind the recipe. LOL Defending my chosen hobby is all!
I'm glad to see men speaking out in favor of rounding out their skill sets though. :)
I agree Lili.
a good chef understands the art. A good chef can make bad ingredients into a good meal. lol. but true. Like working with gamey meat.
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